need original disk for sp1 install? please tell me i don't...

hello
installing sp1 requires the original cd? please tell me i don't... i really
don't want to shuffle tons of files around so i can extract a 600mb file
just to install a service pack.
man, i hate this about msft... i'm always digging up original cds for
updates. what a pain. what's the reason for this?
dushan bilbijaPerhaps they're trying to discourage piracy?
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____________________________________
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Author, Mentor, Consultant
Microsoft MVP
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"Dushan Bilbija" <dbilbija@.msn.com> wrote in message
news:%235YheoujEHA.2908@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> hello
> installing sp1 requires the original cd? please tell me i don't... i
> really
> don't want to shuffle tons of files around so i can extract a 600mb file
> just to install a service pack.
> man, i hate this about msft... i'm always digging up original cds for
> updates. what a pain. what's the reason for this?
> dushan bilbija
>|||We did our best to ensure you would not need the original media when
installing SP1. Windows installer has some quirks about it that can make
this a difficult goal to achieve. I have seen this issue happen when config
files are copied over top of existing config files. The modified dates and
create dates confuse the installer and make it think it needs to recreate
the file.
If you send me the setup log file I can see if this is an issue we can
resolve for our next service pack.
--
-Daniel
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
"William (Bill) Vaughn" <billvaRemoveThis@.nwlink.com> wrote in message
news:uvzPn1ujEHA.2544@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Perhaps they're trying to discourage piracy?
> --
> ____________________________________
> William (Bill) Vaughn
> Author, Mentor, Consultant
> Microsoft MVP
> www.betav.com
> Please reply only to the newsgroup so that others can benefit.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
> __________________________________
> "Dushan Bilbija" <dbilbija@.msn.com> wrote in message
> news:%235YheoujEHA.2908@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > hello
> >
> > installing sp1 requires the original cd? please tell me i don't... i
> > really
> > don't want to shuffle tons of files around so i can extract a 600mb file
> > just to install a service pack.
> >
> > man, i hate this about msft... i'm always digging up original cds for
> > updates. what a pain. what's the reason for this?
> >
> > dushan bilbija
> >
> >
>|||you'd think that was the reason... but how would they achieve that with the
original cd? a nice cd burner takes care of that problem. a quick google
search gives you any cd key you need.
btw... where's the guide for vb.net and sql2005? :)
dushan
"William (Bill) Vaughn" <billvaRemoveThis@.nwlink.com> wrote in message
news:uvzPn1ujEHA.2544@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Perhaps they're trying to discourage piracy?
> --
> ____________________________________
> William (Bill) Vaughn
> Author, Mentor, Consultant
> Microsoft MVP
> www.betav.com
> Please reply only to the newsgroup so that others can benefit.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
> __________________________________
> "Dushan Bilbija" <dbilbija@.msn.com> wrote in message
> news:%235YheoujEHA.2908@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > hello
> >
> > installing sp1 requires the original cd? please tell me i don't... i
> > really
> > don't want to shuffle tons of files around so i can extract a 600mb file
> > just to install a service pack.
> >
> > man, i hate this about msft... i'm always digging up original cds for
> > updates. what a pain. what's the reason for this?
> >
> > dushan bilbija
> >
> >
>|||hi daniel
i'll email you the log file... maybe it'll help debug the install.
in the meantime, i've found a workaround... i dnloaded the eval install, and
used that instead. the original cd is on our corporate network, and i didn't
have access to it.
thanks for the quick reply!
dushan
"Daniel Reib [MSFT]" <danreib@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%23wLRh8ujEHA.2500@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> We did our best to ensure you would not need the original media when
> installing SP1. Windows installer has some quirks about it that can make
> this a difficult goal to achieve. I have seen this issue happen when
config
> files are copied over top of existing config files. The modified dates
and
> create dates confuse the installer and make it think it needs to recreate
> the file.
> If you send me the setup log file I can see if this is an issue we can
> resolve for our next service pack.
> --
> -Daniel
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
>
> "William (Bill) Vaughn" <billvaRemoveThis@.nwlink.com> wrote in message
> news:uvzPn1ujEHA.2544@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Perhaps they're trying to discourage piracy?
> >
> > --
> > ____________________________________
> > William (Bill) Vaughn
> > Author, Mentor, Consultant
> > Microsoft MVP
> > www.betav.com
> > Please reply only to the newsgroup so that others can benefit.
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> > __________________________________
> >
> > "Dushan Bilbija" <dbilbija@.msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:%235YheoujEHA.2908@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > hello
> > >
> > > installing sp1 requires the original cd? please tell me i don't... i
> > > really
> > > don't want to shuffle tons of files around so i can extract a 600mb
file
> > > just to install a service pack.
> > >
> > > man, i hate this about msft... i'm always digging up original cds for
> > > updates. what a pain. what's the reason for this?
> > >
> > > dushan bilbija
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>|||oops... spoke too soon.
the install i have is enterprise edition... so i still need the cd.
dushan
"Dushan Bilbija" <dbilbija@.msn.com> wrote in message
news:Os9KZGvjEHA.3392@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> hi daniel
> i'll email you the log file... maybe it'll help debug the install.
> in the meantime, i've found a workaround... i dnloaded the eval install,
and
> used that instead. the original cd is on our corporate network, and i
didn't
> have access to it.
> thanks for the quick reply!
> dushan
> "Daniel Reib [MSFT]" <danreib@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%23wLRh8ujEHA.2500@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > We did our best to ensure you would not need the original media when
> > installing SP1. Windows installer has some quirks about it that can
make
> > this a difficult goal to achieve. I have seen this issue happen when
> config
> > files are copied over top of existing config files. The modified dates
> and
> > create dates confuse the installer and make it think it needs to
recreate
> > the file.
> >
> > If you send me the setup log file I can see if this is an issue we can
> > resolve for our next service pack.
> >
> > --
> > -Daniel
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> >
> >
> > "William (Bill) Vaughn" <billvaRemoveThis@.nwlink.com> wrote in message
> > news:uvzPn1ujEHA.2544@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Perhaps they're trying to discourage piracy?
> > >
> > > --
> > > ____________________________________
> > > William (Bill) Vaughn
> > > Author, Mentor, Consultant
> > > Microsoft MVP
> > > www.betav.com
> > > Please reply only to the newsgroup so that others can benefit.
> > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > rights.
> > > __________________________________
> > >
> > > "Dushan Bilbija" <dbilbija@.msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%235YheoujEHA.2908@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > hello
> > > >
> > > > installing sp1 requires the original cd? please tell me i don't... i
> > > > really
> > > > don't want to shuffle tons of files around so i can extract a 600mb
> file
> > > > just to install a service pack.
> > > >
> > > > man, i hate this about msft... i'm always digging up original cds
for
> > > > updates. what a pain. what's the reason for this?
> > > >
> > > > dushan bilbija
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

Need infos regarding install of SQL Express 2005 SP1

Hi,

A little technical question. If I want to install SQL Express 2005 SP1, do I have to uninstall current version first?

Thanks in advance,

Stphane

No, you apply a service pack to an existing installation.|||

Hi again,

Thanks for the info. Maybe a last question. Considering the fact that a SP1 has also been issued for Visual Studio 2005, must I first install the SP1 for VS 2005 before installing SP1 for SQL Express 2005 or it doesn't matter?

Thanks for your help,

Stphane

|||

It doesn't matter.

Mike

|||

SQL Server and Visual Studio are separate products. You do not have to apply SP1 to them in any particular order, nor do you have to apply it to both (though it is a good idea.)

Please indicate if your question has been answered properly. Thanks,

|||

Hi again,

I just finished install VS 2005 Sp1. Quite long, especially the section where it was evaluating the pre-requisites, but everything completed without error. It detected the appropriate version of VS2005 I was using. Now I'm ready to apply SP1 to SQL Server Express 2005. Before going on, I really need to clarify those things.

Considering the fact that the version of SQL Server Express 2005 actually present on my system is the one I originally installed from VS2005 Standard disks, what is the appropriate install sequence I should take?:

1- If I want to install "Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services", do I have to uninstall the SQL Server Express 2005 version actually installed on my machine first or do I simply install the new one over it?

ref: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=4C6BA9FD-319A-4887-BC75-3B02B5E48A40&displaylang=en

2- I presume that I can then install "Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Edition Toolkit" without problem. Anything I should take care of before install?

ref: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3c856b93-369f-4c6f-9357-c35384179543&DisplayLang=en

3- Finally, I presume that I can apply SP1 "Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Edition (SP1)" without any problem. Is the following link the appropriate version to apply or should I apply another one?

ref: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=11350B1F-8F44-4DB6-B542-4A4B869C2FF1&displaylang=en

Thanks for your help,

Stphane

|||

Stphane,

Your sequence of steps should be work ok.

|||

Hi Arnie,

Just to be sure. Must I uninstall current version of SQL Express before going on with others listed in previous message?

Thanks for your help, really appreciated!

Stphane

|||Unless you are using a beta version, you do not need to unInstall before applying the service pack.|||

Hi again,

For applying SP1, I was aware that there was no need for uninstalling as I already applied SP1 over Visual Studio 2005. In fact, my question was more about the installation of "Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services" over actual SQL Express installed on my machine. Can I install it over actual version or must I first uninstall current SQL Express version installed?

Thanks again,

Stphane

|||

The 'Advanced Services" edition is the same version of SQL 2005 Express, and it includes additional functionality, including Management Studio Express.

Again, you do NOT have to uninstall before adding a service pack.

(Now is that complete enough for you to indicate you have been responded and answered?

|||

Hi again,

This last question was not about SP1. Actually the SQL Server 2005 Express version I have is the one installed directly from Visual Studio 2005 Standard Edition disks. I would like before applying SP1 to install instead version/package "Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services". During your last posts, you seemed to talk only about SP1. Again, "Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services" is NOT installed but I would like to install it before applying SP1.

That is why I asked again, and still ask, in order to install "Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services" over current version I have of SQL Express, do I have to uninstall SQL Express version currently installed first?

After this new install will be done, THEN I know I will be able to install SP1 without touching anything, the same way I already did so far for VS 2005.

Sorry for misunderstanding, but I want to be sure before screwing up anything.

Stphane

|||

And as I have replied many, many times: NO, you do not have to uninstall your current version of SQL 2005 Express. When you start up the "Advanced Services" edition, you will be asked if you want to install a new instance, or just install the new advanced services and Management Studio Express.

Please, give it a rest. Go make your installation. Go with Peace and Florish.

|||

Hi,

Really sorry to bug you but I never went through this install so far. Having known from start that install process would have asked me this question would have made things clear in my mind. Now, with that last detail, YES, we can close the subject.

Thanks for your patience,

Stphane

|||Cool, you gave yourself credit for answering your own question!

Need Help... Urgent!

I've installed SQL Server 2005 from MSDN, however, while I was trying to
install the SP1 from the same DVD, it said:
"Shared String ID 11217 Not Found" with the body of the message saying
"Shared String ID 11216 Not Found"...
What could I do? How do I solve this?
I went to Microsoft.com to download the SP1 directly from there.. But the
error continues...
Thanks...
Hi Sonia,
Why dont you apply SP2 directly?
Ekrem ?nsoy
"Sonia.Madureira" <Sonia.Madureira@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:067A08DC-D5B1-4734-B24D-3A23E951F562@.microsoft.com...
> I've installed SQL Server 2005 from MSDN, however, while I was trying to
> install the SP1 from the same DVD, it said:
> "Shared String ID 11217 Not Found" with the body of the message saying
> "Shared String ID 11216 Not Found"...
> What could I do? How do I solve this?
> I went to Microsoft.com to download the SP1 directly from there.. But the
> error continues...
> Thanks...
|||Hi Ekrem,
Thanks for answer.. I've tried right now to install SP2 but it didn't work
out either..
When it's extracting, occours an error saying:
"The following error occoured", same in body - OK
When I click in OK it shows:
"A recently applied update, , failed to install" and in the content of the
report it says:
"EventType: sqlsetup P1 : unknown P2 : 0x0 P3 : unknown ..." , the
unknown repeats until P10...
Can you Help me?
"Ekrem ?nsoy" wrote:
Hi Sonia,
Why dont you apply SP2 directly?
Ekrem ?nsoy
|||I'm not sure if your prior SP installation attempt broke some SQL Server
binaries or not but it look's like it did. As you do not have a chance to
uninstall only the SP installation (that corrupted one), there is not
emerging an idea in my mind but to uninstall the problematic SQL Server
instance and install a new SQL Server instance from scratch and applying SP2
then.
I don't know your environment and if it's an important SQL Server instance
and can not be offline for a while or something don't blame me for my
comments =)
I hope others has a better idea on this problem.
P.S.
You said that an error occurs when the package is being extracted but as it
complains about the corrupted SP installation in the error message, I think
it finishes extracting the package and the problem occurs when it's checking
the system before applying the SP.
Ekrem ?nsoy
"Sonia.Madureira" <SoniaMadureira@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:523C6A93-BF60-492A-A58F-DF9729087D2E@.microsoft.com...
> Hi Ekrem,
> Thanks for answer.. I've tried right now to install SP2 but it didn't work
> out either..
> When it's extracting, occours an error saying:
> "The following error occoured", same in body - OK
> When I click in OK it shows:
> "A recently applied update, , failed to install" and in the content of the
> report it says:
> "EventType: sqlsetup P1 : unknown P2 : 0x0 P3 : unknown ..." , the
> unknown repeats until P10...
> Can you Help me?
>
>
>
> "Ekrem ?nsoy" wrote:
> Hi Sonia,
> Why dont you apply SP2 directly?
> --
> Ekrem ?nsoy
>
|||Thanks Ekrem,
I'll uninstall SQL and try again.
I've started this week serving as aprenctice in a company of services,
software, harware... So, they want me to learn as logic that is... (by the
way, forgive me my mistakes, i'm portuguese)
We install PC's, servers, etc in clients.. So we use SQL server...
They told me to install SQL server in my PC to start learning and when
errors occour, they answer to looke online.. I am looking everywhere but with
no luck... =( LOL
Thanks for helping me Ekrom... I will try to uninstall now... And try
again... =)
"Ekrem ?nsoy" wrote:

> I'm not sure if your prior SP installation attempt broke some SQL Server
> binaries or not but it look's like it did. As you do not have a chance to
> uninstall only the SP installation (that corrupted one), there is not
> emerging an idea in my mind but to uninstall the problematic SQL Server
> instance and install a new SQL Server instance from scratch and applying SP2
> then.
> I don't know your environment and if it's an important SQL Server instance
> and can not be offline for a while or something don't blame me for my
> comments =)
> I hope others has a better idea on this problem.
> P.S.
> You said that an error occurs when the package is being extracted but as it
> complains about the corrupted SP installation in the error message, I think
> it finishes extracting the package and the problem occurs when it's checking
> the system before applying the SP.
> --
> Ekrem ?nsoy
|||Thanks Ekrem,
I'm allready installing SP2...
I have my problem solved...
=)
|||That's a good news =)
I suggest you to be careful about installing SQL Server and its Service
Packs... For example, close any running apps that can\may prevent SQL Server
Setup to install its components successfully. It was your computer this time
but it could be an important SQL Server server. So ensure that there is a
clean and pure running system before starting installing SQL Server and its
Service Pack or something.
To learn better you could buy some books about SQL Server and your best
online assistant will be Books Online. Take advantage of it.
Good luck.
Ekrem ?nsoy
"Sonia.Madureira" <SoniaMadureira@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:BDDAFBE5-0CE4-4831-8827-314F87C4E5F0@.microsoft.com...
> Thanks Ekrem,
> I'm allready installing SP2...
> I have my problem solved...
> =)

Need Help... Urgent!

I've installed SQL Server 2005 from MSDN, however, while I was trying to
install the SP1 from the same DVD, it said:
"Shared String ID 11217 Not Found" with the body of the message saying
"Shared String ID 11216 Not Found"...
What could I do? How do I solve this?
I went to Microsoft.com to download the SP1 directly from there.. But the
error continues...
Thanks...Hi Sonia,
Why dont you apply SP2 directly?
--
Ekrem Ã?nsoy
"Sonia.Madureira" <Sonia.Madureira@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:067A08DC-D5B1-4734-B24D-3A23E951F562@.microsoft.com...
> I've installed SQL Server 2005 from MSDN, however, while I was trying to
> install the SP1 from the same DVD, it said:
> "Shared String ID 11217 Not Found" with the body of the message saying
> "Shared String ID 11216 Not Found"...
> What could I do? How do I solve this?
> I went to Microsoft.com to download the SP1 directly from there.. But the
> error continues...
> Thanks...|||Hi Ekrem,
Thanks for answer.. I've tried right now to install SP2 but it didn't work
out either..
When it's extracting, occours an error saying:
"The following error occoured", same in body - OK
When I click in OK it shows:
"A recently applied update, , failed to install" and in the content of the
report it says:
"EventType: sqlsetup P1 : unknown P2 : 0x0 P3 : unknown ..." , the
unknown repeats until P10...
Can you Help me?
"Ekrem Ã?nsoy" wrote:
Hi Sonia,
Why dont you apply SP2 directly?
--
Ekrem Ã?nsoy|||I'm not sure if your prior SP installation attempt broke some SQL Server
binaries or not but it look's like it did. As you do not have a chance to
uninstall only the SP installation (that corrupted one), there is not
emerging an idea in my mind but to uninstall the problematic SQL Server
instance and install a new SQL Server instance from scratch and applying SP2
then.
I don't know your environment and if it's an important SQL Server instance
and can not be offline for a while or something don't blame me for my
comments =)
I hope others has a better idea on this problem.
P.S.
You said that an error occurs when the package is being extracted but as it
complains about the corrupted SP installation in the error message, I think
it finishes extracting the package and the problem occurs when it's checking
the system before applying the SP.
--
Ekrem Ã?nsoy
"Sonia.Madureira" <SoniaMadureira@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:523C6A93-BF60-492A-A58F-DF9729087D2E@.microsoft.com...
> Hi Ekrem,
> Thanks for answer.. I've tried right now to install SP2 but it didn't work
> out either..
> When it's extracting, occours an error saying:
> "The following error occoured", same in body - OK
> When I click in OK it shows:
> "A recently applied update, , failed to install" and in the content of the
> report it says:
> "EventType: sqlsetup P1 : unknown P2 : 0x0 P3 : unknown ..." , the
> unknown repeats until P10...
> Can you Help me?
>
>
>
> "Ekrem Ã?nsoy" wrote:
> Hi Sonia,
> Why dont you apply SP2 directly?
> --
> Ekrem Ã?nsoy
>|||Thanks Ekrem,
I'll uninstall SQL and try again.
I've started this week serving as aprenctice in a company of services,
software, harware... So, they want me to learn as logic that is... (by the
way, forgive me my mistakes, i'm portuguese)
We install PC's, servers, etc in clients.. So we use SQL server...
They told me to install SQL server in my PC to start learning and when
errors occour, they answer to looke online.. I am looking everywhere but with
no luck... =( LOL
Thanks for helping me Ekrom... I will try to uninstall now... And try
again... =)
"Ekrem Ã?nsoy" wrote:
> I'm not sure if your prior SP installation attempt broke some SQL Server
> binaries or not but it look's like it did. As you do not have a chance to
> uninstall only the SP installation (that corrupted one), there is not
> emerging an idea in my mind but to uninstall the problematic SQL Server
> instance and install a new SQL Server instance from scratch and applying SP2
> then.
> I don't know your environment and if it's an important SQL Server instance
> and can not be offline for a while or something don't blame me for my
> comments =)
> I hope others has a better idea on this problem.
> P.S.
> You said that an error occurs when the package is being extracted but as it
> complains about the corrupted SP installation in the error message, I think
> it finishes extracting the package and the problem occurs when it's checking
> the system before applying the SP.
> --
> Ekrem Ã?nsoy|||Thanks Ekrem,
I'm allready installing SP2...
I have my problem solved...
=)|||That's a good news =)
I suggest you to be careful about installing SQL Server and its Service
Packs... For example, close any running apps that can\may prevent SQL Server
Setup to install its components successfully. It was your computer this time
but it could be an important SQL Server server. So ensure that there is a
clean and pure running system before starting installing SQL Server and its
Service Pack or something.
To learn better you could buy some books about SQL Server and your best
online assistant will be Books Online. Take advantage of it.
Good luck.
--
Ekrem Ã?nsoy
"Sonia.Madureira" <SoniaMadureira@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:BDDAFBE5-0CE4-4831-8827-314F87C4E5F0@.microsoft.com...
> Thanks Ekrem,
> I'm allready installing SP2...
> I have my problem solved...
> =)|||Thanks so much for helping me...
I have a lot to learn... =)
i will look for ebooks about it...
Thanks again!